I’m Here by Nancy-Lee Mauger
You Can Have Dissociative Identity Disorder and Thrive !
Are you shocked to hear that a mental health professional with Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID) is able to lead a productive life?
You need not be. Many individuals with DID live healthy and fulfilling lives (ISSTD, n.d.).
However, as a result of unfamiliarity and inaccurate portrayals of the mental illness across the different forms of media, not only do lay people have unfounded beliefs about individuals with DID but many mental health professionals lack the knowledge and/or experience to correctly diagnose (and/or treat) individuals with DID.
In fact, only about 6% of individuals with Dissociative Identity Disorder present with visibly alternate identities and mental health providers tend to misdiagnose them based upon the combination of symptoms they happen to present with simultaneously such as depression, panic attacks and substance abuse (ISSTD, 2011).
This post will provide you with the unique opportunity to get a better understanding of this mental illness via the perspective of someone who has DID and is a mental health provider. Janet Simon* is an experienced social worker with areas of expertise in mental health and disabilities.
So without further ado, Janet, how did you discover that you had DID? Was it scary?
I suffered from bouts of depression from the time I was about eleven years old but also recall having anxiety as far back as when I was five years old. As a child, I was always getting in trouble for spacing out in class and had headaches from a very young age.
The symptoms of DID started expanding when I was in community college. My roommate started telling me I was saying things that were really out of character for me – things I did not remember saying.
I suffered from severe headaches, depression, was very moody and had many unexplained illnesses. I started going for counseling after one of my teachers was concerned I might be suicidal. I had no words to explain what I was feeling inside, just that I did not feel right.
I tried many therapists and nothing helped. At different times over the years, I was diagnosed with depression, bipolar disorder, somatization disorder, personality disorders, PTSD, and fibromyalgia. Everything came to a head several years later when I was put on a cocktail of drugs to treat the most recent diagnosis at that time, ‘rapid-cycling bipolar type 2’.
I felt worse. I ended up attending an inpatient treatment program for depression. I was suicidal, confused, and was hearing something like a radio in my head. I was fighting with my partner about decisions we had apparently made that I did not remember making.
The intensive treatment I received did not help. My relationship ended and I was couch surfing for a few months. I did not think I would ever be able to go back to work. Often, I would find myself on the bus and not know where I was going. I would sometimes engage in self-harm and each time, I felt compelled, as though I was not in control and was watching myself.
My head was filled with extremely morbid images and I had many loud thoughts in my head. Though I was terrified and thought I was insane, I would never go back to the hospital after the experiences I had there. I went to see a social worker to help me find housing and help me decide if I should go on a disability pension.
Over the course of a few weeks, this social worker started asking me questions about what was happening with me. Did I have bouts of amnesia? Were there items in my possession that I did not remember buying? Did people ever accuse me of lying?
I now recognize these as coming from the DES, the Dissociative Experiences Scale. She eventually told me she wondered if I had Multiple Personality Disorder; the change in name to Dissociative Identity Disorder was still very recent.
I thought she was crazy; I had seen Sybil and I was not like THAT! She suggested that instead of being scared by the diagnosis, that I begin observing my feelings, to see how often they changed, and how intense they were.
Eventually I came to see that this diagnosis fit. I became willing to get to know myself and observe myself. Though I denied it at first, I had been aware of some of my parts for some time. I would refer to them as ‘the part of me that is depressed’, the part of me that is terrified, ‘the friendly one’, etc. As time went on, I recognized more of them.
Yes I was scared, but I was also relieved. Over the last few years, no therapist had ever known what to do with me. Once I had recognized them, I started working with the different aspects of myself. The more I accepted the situation and started working with it, instead of against it, the more balanced my life became.
I noticed you had an interview here about ‘Parts Psychology’. I want to reiterate that everyone has parts. Mine were just a bit more compartmentalized. It is true that similar work is done with people with DID, and it does, in fact, take a lot longer to treat. Different therapists have different approaches many based in Ego state therapy.
I have done intensive work with two therapists and am happy to say that the type of treatment I have received has permitted me not only to return to work but to also get off medication I did not need, go to university to obtain two degrees, and secure employment that I love. Depression is no longer a constant state of being. I am happy and live a normal, healthy life.
Growing Lollys by Nancy-Lee Mauger
You had to experience much pain and lose valuable time until receiving your correct diagnosis. What do you recommend mental health professionals watch out for so as to not to repeat this error with another DID client?
My wish is that professionals not be so quick to jump to conclusions. Instead, observe with all your senses, listen to what is said and what is not said, and ask questions. Note the contradictions in behavior, the changes in your client from week to week.
How do they dress? Are they extremely confident one week and terrified the next? Do they ever look at you as if they don’t know you? Do they suddenly seem uncooperative when they have always been pleasant? Does their voice change? Do they space out frequently during sessions?
They might also have quite a few physical complaints: headaches, dizziness, and stomachaches. These are just a few things you can spend time observing. There are other things mental health professionals can do and I can explain those later in our conversation.
What are your current DID symptoms?
Interesting you would ask that because I don’t think of myself as currently having symptoms. The symptoms, according to my perspective, were what I experienced before I could explain it with the label of Dissociative Identity Disorder.
Now, I still have what others might call symptoms but to me, they are reactions to some sort of trigger. When something happens, the parts inside might react. An example might be that on some days, I feel anxiety.
When I spend time asking inside, I usually am able to find out what is causing the anxiety: a trigger; a memory, physical sensation or a current situation that reminds a part about a past event. The part is reacting because there is a conflict between the event I am experiencing and the frame of reference of that part.
I have to reframe the experience for the part by reminding it of the present moment. But these symptoms, when I tend to them quickly, will subside. They are not permanent.
I am aware that however I try to explain this; I will not do it justice. I will attempt to explain it simply. If you follow me to work, you might not notice anything about me. But if you come home with me, particularly after a stressful day when I am tired, you might catch me spacing out. That has to be my most common ‘symptom.’
When I am not aware of something happening inside and some parts are trying to get my attention, I may get a headache, get anxious, feel confused, feel dizzy or have many conflicting thoughts at once to the point where I can’t focus. Sometimes I feel many of my parts coming to the front at once to react to a certain situation. It feels like they are all in a revolving door and are afraid to step out. I have learned techniques to deal with all those symptoms.
I no longer have periods of amnesia. Ever since I have developed some co-consciousness and inner cooperation, I am always aware of what I am doing. It definitely was not always like that. I have had people from my past show up and tell me about something we did together. I have no idea who they are. That can be a bit awkward.
Over the years, I have met a few other people with DID. For some reason we tend to find each other; I suspect it is because we recognize it in each other. We all have a unique way of compartmentalizing our experiences and memories. We have all split off in some way, usually to deal with trauma.
Though our experiences are similar, they can also be quite different depending on the treatment or lack of treatment each person has had. Some people have not been fortunate enough to have proper treatment. They have been bounced around from professional to professional, or have been frequently hospitalized or treated for other illnesses.
As a result, they might not have acquired skills to live with their condition or work towards recovery. Their lives continue to be full of chaos, their parts are unaware of each other and they struggle with amnesia, depression and experiences they have a difficult time explaining.
Others have had good intervention and have become successful, balanced individuals. Others fall somewhere in between those two groups. I try not to compare myself but I do find myself extremely fortunate to have found help and been able to get out of the hell I was living. I wish I knew more people like me, who live a successful life despite living with DID.
Faces in Trees by Nancy-Lee Mauger
Would you say that you are integrated or that you have learned how to manage your different parts?
I guess the answer to that depends on what your definition of integration is. When I worked with the first therapist, her goal for me was integration. I understood integration as working towards having one integrated personality. I did not know there was any other option.
I worked hard to make that happen and realized later on, when I started university and got triggered by stress and new memories, that I was not integrated; my parts were simply dormant or silent. Stress had caused a re-split and for a while it was quite frightening to have all the parts show up again, since I really believed they were gone.
I now have a very different understanding of integration. I have gotten to know all parts of myself. They work together to accomplish what I need to do. They all know each other and aware of each other. This is the co-consciousness I referred to earlier. They make decisions together and no part takes control without me knowing about it. That is how I now define integration, connecting of the dots so to speak: team work. The parts are no longer acting on their own without my knowledge.
People forget that the diagnosis criteria in the DSM is for diagnosis only, it does not describe the day-to-day life of a person living with DID who is working towards health. Since I no longer have the amnesia described in the diagnosis criteria, I would no longer receive the specific diagnosis of DID, but would fall under another type of dissociative disorder.
Am I cured? No, but I have recovered from the distress and severe symptoms that accompany DID. But like any illness or condition, I need to have a treatment plan in order maintain wellbeing and deal with stress as it comes.
What is it like, on a day-to-day basis, to live with DID?
Based on appearances, there is not much difference between you and me. Most people, unless they know me very well, are not aware of my switches. Some people might notice a shift in my mood, a look on my face, or a different speech pattern – which could easily be explained by being tired, by knowing more than one language, being excited about plans, or stressed with various life situations.
I have learned that in order to function reasonably flawlessly in the outside world (as opposed to my internal world) I have had to develop a strong routine. The more structured my life is, the less surprises there are. Surprises even if they are good, can be triggers and cause discomfort.
Structure reassures my various parts. They know what is going on, they know what to do and it becomes almost automatic. In terms of day-to-day self-care and balance, I have basically the same needs as anyone in any type of recovery: get enough sleep, eat well, and exercise.
To that, I add meditation or visualizations (inner meetings) to help my parts discuss, get organized and cooperate, mindfulness so all my parts are aware of the day and time, journal writing, relaxation techniques, and having enough time for myself and for my parts to occasionally just ‘be’ and tend to their needs without the stress of being around others.
I also have to prepare for the unexpected. My parts have worked together to develop strategies so that when one of them is stressed, anxious, scared, angry, there is a plan already in place to soothe, contain or express the emotion in an acceptable manner. I also have to prepare ahead for situations where there will be a lot of people or if I will be in a new situation.
It is a lot of work and there are times when I need to pass on activities with friends, or late nights because I know they will stress out the system. Stress can cause several days of discomfort, depression and anxiety. Inner communication is crucial to being well.
When I let go the routine or don’t take care of myself I am more vulnerable to having different parts reacting to stress and triggers because they don’t know what is going on.
I believe DID is really just a different way to perceive the world and make sense of it. My brain processes feelings and information differently. I have learned techniques to organize that information so it does not overwhelm me. And if I do get overwhelmed, I have been taught ways to get every part back to a collaborative state.
Searching for Piece by Nancy-Lee Mauger
Ok, let me think of an example. Sometimes you might hear a song that reminds you of an unpleasant or difficult time in your life. You might have a fleeting thought about the particular memory, you might feel a bit sad, but you are aware that it is a memory.
What happens with me is that the connection is not made consciously. I might suddenly feel very sad for what seems like no reason. The connection between the song and the memory went directly to the part who was involved in that event.
That part might feel they are reliving that event or, and at times, they feel they need to react to it. I am unaware except for the fact that I may suddenly feel sad, angry, depressed, or anxious. I need to find out what part is reacting and then find ways to process that information by soothing that part or helping it remember that the event is not happening now.
Different stimuli can affect the different parts differently as they all have their own memories. If I know I will be in a situation that might hold particular triggers for the various parts, I will prepare ahead of time to find ways to keep the parts from being aware of the outside world.
It can also happen with positive memories. They might trigger the younger parts who will feel happy and giggly and have a sudden urge to drink chocolate milk. Yet if you asked why I suddenly craved a hotdog and chocolate milk when I normally prefer a semi-vegetarian diet, I won’t be able to explain it right away.
How do you manage your DID while working with your clients?
Part of my recovery has been getting to know my parts, and figuring out their strengths. There are also rules that all the parts need to follow. I wake up early in the morning and see that extra time as my time to get organized. Interestingly enough, work is the place where I am most grounded and efficient and the least likely to ‘switch.’
I visualize my morning process a bit like taking many different coins and putting them in a coin sorter. Only the ‘work coins’ go to work. The inner visualization helps keep the other parts in the background, and not at work.
I would need a lot more time to explain this fully, but I think you get the picture. Because there is good inner communication, there is respect from the other parts. There is no interference or sabotage from the other parts.
My work part is very strong and focused and it is rare that outside events or situations will trigger me. The work part is professional, efficient and knows what to do. I can usually feel if my other parts are close. I have some strategies to speak to those inside in those moments to remind them to step back.
I also use some self-hypnosis techniques to help calm any emotions that might be taking over. Usually, feelings are contained until I find myself alone, away from clients. If there is some discomfort, I usually take some time alone to check in and can usually get things settled inside fairly quickly.
I have more switches when I am alone at home because I let myself relax after work. I have less rules and responsibilities and can let the parts ‘be.’
Bloomin’ by Nancy-Lee Mauger
In terms of origin, an individual’s parts originally developed to help a child survive her trauma. Essentially, a part contained (witnessed/experienced) what the rest of the child could not.
What role do the parts play for the adult (once the trauma has ceased – is it still to try to protect the adult from remembering the details of the trauma?), and what reason/role does the switching play?
That is a very big question with a lot of sub-questions. I want to clarify that different parts have different roles. Yes, some were developed to experience the trauma but other parts have developed as chameleons, comedians to shift the focus away from the pain or the situation, protectors, caregivers, obedient children, some hold fear, others pain, etc.
Over the years, some of the parts have changed and grown as they have learned they no longer need the behaviors of the past to be safe. That is the biggest part of recovery: rescuing the parts from the past so they can experience the present in a new way. Some of my parts still get caught up in emotions from the past, but they are not trying to protect me necessarily.
I have done enough work that I am aware of most of the trauma. The parts are all aware of each other; they are learning new ways of being, letting go of what is no longer useful. As therapy continues, the roles change as do the goals. It takes a long time to get to the point where all the parts are ready to face the trauma.
The groundwork needs to be set so that they are aware of the present instead of trapped in the past, and feel safe enough with each other and the therapist to know they are remembering and not re-living. There are many skills that are learned along the way to contain painful memories and feelings and work towards collaboration and communication. Once that is solid, then the parts can work more deeply to heal difficult memories.
Switching is the term used for when different parts are coming to the front. Sometimes they are reacting to triggers and other times they are trying to help me. Sometimes I am just very tired and another part will want to take over to help.
Mostly, I feel the switches coming on but I don’t always allow them. I will allow some of them to come out if it is safe: when I am alone or when I am with my therapist and maybe with one close friend. Other parts I will allow in the front because I know people will not notice the change.
For the most part, I will acknowledge the part internally and ask it to step back if it is not appropriate or safe for it to be there. Some parts can stay close and watch and can influence me without ‘taking over.’ That is how it is for me most of the time. I can feel them or hear their thoughts but they rarely need to come out. They function with me from the inside.
What are some of the challenges of having DID?
Sometimes the different parts disagree about what I should do. Many people know what it’s like to feel pulled in different directions or to feel ambivalent at times. Multiply that in terms of frequency and intensity.
Sometimes I don’t recognize the ambivalence right away. I feel anxious, uncomfortable, out of sorts until I check inside and ask how the different parts are doing or how they feel about a certain situation. Sometimes I need to do some education with the younger parts, give them proof that things have changed, that they will be safe, that they do not have to participate in whatever the plan is.
It can be tiring. But doing the check in does work; even though I admit, after several years, I still struggle with remembering to do that regularly. I still have denial and not to be funny but, part of me does not want to accept that I have DID.
I would say the biggest challenge is the stigma related to DID. I am using a pen name for this interview because I know that despite the evidence and research, there are still many health professionals who do not believe in DID. Being out about my situation could mean the end of my job.
There has been a great deal of awareness done in the last few years to reduce the stigma of mental illness. This is not the case with DID. No one talks about it, and if they do, it is to say it does not exist. Professionals are allowed to write newspaper articles, books, go on television and the radio to say that this is not a real condition; that we are making it up; that our therapists have created this. Would we say that about someone with schizophrenia?
All I know is that, the professional help I was given prior to the DID diagnosis did not help. I was at the brink of suicide and thought my life would never get any better. I was abused by the mental health system; prescribed medication I did not need, and was treated by professionals who did not listen to me. Now, I have a wonderful life but have to hide what is making me better. I have to hide the DID and not talk about it. I hate hiding. I wish I could be out.
Also because there is so little understanding about DID and so many misconceptions, I also am very careful about confiding in friends. Very few of my friends know and if they do, we rarely talk about it. Some people I have confided in have changed the way they treated me once they knew. They were constantly trying to figure out ‘whom’ they were talking to. I have let go of those people. I felt like a sideshow around them.
I am me, the same as I was before people knew of the diagnosis. Treat me like you would anyone else. If you notice something, you can ask if I am OK, or if I am tired or stressed but don’t wait for some part to jump out and identify itself to you. I will talk more about this when we talk about professionals.
What are some of the silver linings to having DID?
I could make a joke and say that I am never alone. In a way, it is true. The biggest gift I have received from DID is that I have learned to know myself in a way that many people don’t. I have become friends with the different aspects of myself.
I have gained patience and self-compassion towards my anxiety, my fears, and my anger. I have learned to trust and appreciate my strengths, my inner teachers and negotiators. I was taught ways to cope with my life that I would not have otherwise.
And having different parts can be useful. I am generally very introverted but there are times when I have to socialize, even if I don’t want to. One of my parts is very social and friendly. That is one part I gladly let out. She can attend all the stuff that freaks me out. People just find me a bit more chatty and friendly.
I am also aware of my younger parts and can be appreciative of the simple things in life; puddles, doing crafts, appreciating nature. Many people go through life without acknowledging or accepting their child-like wonder of the world. Mine is with me all the time.
What do you wish that mental health and/or medical professionals did differently with people with DID ?
Many professionals don’t want to treat people with DID because it takes a long time to treat. There is no magic pill. I know individuals with DID who are not getting the proper kind of treatment because their doctor does not believe in DID or because they cannot afford private therapy with a qualified professional.
Please don’t work with individuals who have DID if you don’t know what you are doing. I have come across therapists who were very excited to learn that I had DID. They thought it would be fun. They asked a lot of questions like: how many parts do you have? What are their names? Do you have any violent ones?
They were fascinated by the condition rather than the person sitting in their office. They had ideas of how they wanted to approach it, but they knew nothing about DID or how to treat it. You can make things worse if you are untrained.
Please, if you don’t know what you are doing, take a course, and ask for help from someone who is trained to work with someone with DID. Don’t practice on us. Most people with DID have been diagnosed with about six other conditions prior to DID. We are fearful and vulnerable. We have trust issues. Be gentle.
If you don’t understand what is going on with your client and are unsure of his/her diagnosis, get some guidance. If you are uncomfortable, seek help or refer to someone else. Don’t pretend you know what you are talking about if you don’t.
When I changed universities for my graduate studies, I approached the center for students with disabilities because I have learning disabilities. I thought I should let someone know about the DID in case I ran into difficulties like I did during my undergrad.
I spoke to a psychologist and when I told her I had DID, she immediately wanted to refer me to the early psychosis program at the hospital. I am not psychotic! That situation made it very clear that it is often not safe to disclose my condition.
The most important thing you can do is to listen to your client. And go where they go. If there is a change in tone, voice, feeling, ask questions.
What would you like mental health and/or medical professionals to know about individuals with DID?
People who live with DID are not like what you have seen on TV. Chances are they will never commit a violent crime while under the influence of another part, or use DID as a defense in court. You might not be able to diagnose your client as having DID if you wait for one of their alternate personalities to just show up in front of you so you can tick of the list of criteria from the DSM.
It has been my experience that my parts just try to blend in. They don’t want to be noticed. They show up to do what another part cannot do and they usually don’t make a show out of it. My parts did not show up to talk to my therapist until they knew her and knew they could trust her.
Having DID is not a party trick. We will not sit with you and switch from part to part for your entertainment.
Don’t judge us based on myths about DID. If you choose to work with people with DID, it is a long process. You will need to be patient, and be willing to repeat the same thing many times. It can sometimes take a while for all the parts to learn something or hear it.
In my opinion, DID is one of the most treatable mental health conditions, given the right tools. It is time-consuming but you can get results and see progress. And people with DID are usually very intelligent, creative, resilient and adaptable. Believe in them. They can live successful productive lives. I am glad someone believed in me!
Thanks so much, Janet, for taking the time to provide us with your personal view of DID!
What are you thoughts about DID and/or the issues Janet raised vis a vis the mental health community?
*Janet Simon is the social worker’s pseudonym; she would have loved to have been able to disclose her real name but feared she may suffer negative professional repercussions.
You May Also Enjoy:
Dissociation Blog Showcase at Sarah E. Olson’s Third of a Lifetime blog
PODs – Positive Outcomes for Dissociative Survivors
Trauma and Dissociation Wiki
Note re artwork: All the beautiful watercolor paintings included in this post have been published with the kind permission of the artist, Nancy-Lee Mauger.
Nancy-Lee Mauger is a female artist who was diagnosed with DID in 2010. She uses art on a daily basis to help her navigate and cope with her mental illness. To purchase her art, you may contact her through https://www.facebook.com/NLMauger or paintingsilove.com.
References:
ISSTD. (n.d.). Dissociation & complex trauma in the media.
ISSTD. (2011). Guidelines for treating dissociative identity disorder in adults, Third revision: Summary version. Journal of Trauma & Dissociation.
Gaurav Tripathi says
Nice 1 .
DorleeM says
Thanks for sharing your enjoyment of this interview, Gaurav 🙂
Quentin Gaige says
Janet,
I am glad you have obtained a place where you feel comfortable. Even prior to where you are at I have been exceptionally productive in life. It’s not uncommon. When the ANP (hosting parts) are isolated from so much we are able to work. This is still not a healthy, normal and good life. I hope I am not the one breaking the news to you.
Either you or Dorlee have posted the ISSTD 2011 guidelines for treating complex dissociative disorders (DD’). Here is a quote from that document concerning fusion. In your text you seem to imply the impossible. Fusion is equal to the normal personality. The normal personality is made up of several states/parts. The following might also help you identify what happened to you. See the bottom of page 134.
“R. P. Kluft (1993a) has argued that the most stable treatment outcome is final fusion—complete integration, merger, and loss of separateness—of all identity states.”
If I am not mistaken, this is where you are at.
“Accordingly, a more realistic long-term outcome for some patients may be a cooperative arrangement sometimes called a “resolution”—that is, sufficiently integrated and coordinated functioning among alternate identities to promote optimal functioning. However, patients who achieve a cooperative arrangement rather than final fusion may be more vulnerable to later decompensation (into florid DID and/or PTSD) when sufficiently stressed.”
Quentin Gaige says
Note. I am not a therapist, and am not very gentle. I am simply the host/ANP of someone who also has DID. I apologize for how abrupt my questions seem, but I don’t know any other way to communicate. Please forgive me if I seem …. well however you perceive me.
My Question:
Janet,
As someone that has successfully went through at least 2 stages of therapy for DID could you please answer a few questions for me because I think that most with DID never get beyond stage 1.
1. Can you recall the work you did to get from Stage I of therapy to stage II?
2. Stage II involves the processing of trauma memory. Do you know what finally allowed you to begin memory processing?
3. How were your memories experienced?
4. Were you ever able to process all the trauma memories that you knew of? Do you think it’s possible there are more? If there are, do you want to work with them or stay where you are now?
Kallena Kucers says
Lovely write-up and interview. Thank you so much for sharing your story “Janet”. It’s so so good to read about someone managing to live and work (especially as a social worker – as that is one of our ‘past careers’ – and really, the paid job we had that all of us liked the best) with DID.
A lot of how you describes your parts co-operating is how we were around maybe 5-6 years ago. We could choose who would be “out” for what occasion, we co-operated that the part best suited to whatever event went and did that, we had ‘safe places’ for most of the parts that needed them to be in while we were doing things that were not OK for them to do and we could ask someone else to come out and take over if one part got too tired… Yet – we still tried our best to hide it all from everyone else. Always.
There is so so much stigma and we’d never tell if we still worked as a social worker either, and I think we even come from a different continent to you. I guess you have a very strong “part that does the job”, or otherwise have a social work job very different to the type of jobs we did (before we found out we had DID). We had already lost our social worker job before we discovered we had DID and moved into academia before beginning our journey to learn about all of us and manage to live with all our parts.
I feel the types of social worker jobs we did would be massively too triggering for us to do ever again though, most likely. Even then, when we did have a separate part that did the job, we got triggered into massive flashbacks several times by having to work with people who’d experienced really violent and/or abusive things that were too close to what we’d lived through.
In some respects it has become more difficult for us to function as we used to since our parts became even more integrated, as “we” naturally morph into “I” overall as there is no longer that ‘extroverted part’ who can go to social functions on behalf of us all, for example. Now it feel like “I”, have to motivate all of me to make what is a huge effort to do something that is so “not me” overall.
But – who knows? Probably the most problematic factor in getting another job as a social worker for us would, in the end though, be the realities of the horribly competitive and underfunded sector and the problems of ‘returning to work after a long break on disability’ rather than whether we ourselves with our were capable of returning to that type of work and whether I made the decision that that was the career and life path that suited me most overall or not.
I wish you all the best in your continued life and career. Thank you for sharing. x
Janet Simon says
Thanks, Quentin
I’m not sure I understand your first question, or what I seem to be implying that is either possible or impossible. I want to state that I am not an expert in DID. I am only sharing my personal experience and don’t read all the papers about treatment. For a while, I wanted to know exactly how this all worked but eventually my questions and personal analysis just kept me spinning and did not change much for me.
My work productivity now is vastly different than it used to be. I was very productive at various times in my life but also had many moments when I would get completely overwhelmed. I left many jobs prior to the DID dx because I could no longer cope. Immediately after the diagnosis, I had a difficult time and was only able to work part time. The more I became aware of my parts, before we had collaboration, the more there would be interruptions, sabotage, confusion as a way to get my attention. That made work and for that matter, having a social life difficult.
YES, I seem to be at the cooperative stage, and for the moment it works well for me. But, I am not saying that I don’t want to integrate fully. My experience of trying to rush to integration with my first therapist ended up causing me a lot of grief when the resplit happened. I thought I had failed, I became angry at myself, angry at the DID. I had a hard time accepting that ‘they’ were back. I lot of work had to be done for me to surrender enough to engage in therapy in a new way with a new therapist and trust her. I worry about how I am doing today and take care of all aspects of me the best way I can. Some parts have blended and I can see that at some point, there will be an integration. But I don’t have a deadline for myself.
For question number 2.
I speak from my own experience when I say that in order for my therapy to be successful, I need to take off my clinical social worker hat. My therapist and I don’t say we are in stage 1 or stage 2 or 3 of therapy. I let her worry about that and I worry about letting myself participate fully in the process. We do take stock occasionally and can look back and see the work we have done so far. At work I am a therapist but with my therapist I am a client and trust in her guidance.
I have been in therapy for DID for about 13 yrs and had all kinds of other therapy before that. The two therapists for DID had different approaches. I did a lot of trauma/memory work prior to knowing I had DID. By the time I started DID specific treatment, I was aware of most of my memories. Some were processed more specifically than others. They are remembered by different parts and not all are ready to face everything we know. There might still be a few surprises, I am sure.
The memories manifest in many ways: thoughts, sensations, smells, reactions, flashbacks, anxiety, fear etc. As I mentioned in the interview I have ways of containing memories some parts may not be ready to process. We continually work on safety- within the system, and with the therapist. We work on all parts being aware of the present to not be stuck in the past. I don’t want to explain all aspects of my therapy in detail here, it would take too long and that was not the point of the interview.
My purpose was to share my story in the hopes that it would reduce stigma, help another and perhaps shed some a bit of light for mental health professionals. Again, I am not a professional, just someone who has gone through it.
Janet Simon says
Thank you, Kallena, for your supportive words and for sharing part of your journey.
I cannot explain why my work parts can handle my job so well, but they do and I am grateful. It was not always the case. I think some of my parts had good training in my personal life dealing with emergencies and crises. 🙂
If someone would have told me fourteen years ago that I would be doing this type of work, I would not have believed them (though I did secretly wish it). I thought I was doomed to spend the rest of my life in and out of hospital, living in a rented room and on welfare. It was a lot of work to get to this point but worth every painful hurdle. Don’t give up on your dreams.
Janet
Samantha Teresa Quintanar says
Janet,
I have done research and have written two term research papers on DID in early childhood development as well as DID well into adulthood and this post brings me pure joy, because those will DID should not feel stigmatized nor labeled.
With the proper education and treatment, they are just as normal as anyone else. Mental illnesses are simply detrimental labels that restrict individuals in excelling in areas of life that deserve normal development.
Samantha
Janet Simon says
Thanks for your comment, Samantha.
The more people understand, the better it will be.
Kallena Kucers says
Thank you for your reply Janet – I get what you mean about some of you having excellent training in your personal life in dealing with crises and emergencies! I can relate to that rather well, I think. I also believe that helps make people like us some of the best social workers around. We learned as young children to have capacities many people have never dreamed of having or needing.
Thank you for your optimism re “us” as well – we’ll see. Maybe it was that we had already lost the social worker job before our DID dx that has led us to feel it wouldn’t be possible for us to do it now as the parts that did do the job no longer had a job to do whilst managing to come to terms with the DID. But, you are right – I will keep the possibility of a future in paid employment again open. x
Janet Simon says
Thanks again, Kallena.
Take care.
Janet
Quentin Gaige says
Hello Janet,
Thank you for your reply. For those that do not know what an ANP and EP is, here is a quickie guide.
ANP – The alters/parts of the personality that don’t hold trauma memories. Often they are in the position of hosting.
EP – The alters/parts of the personality that DO hold trauma memories. Often (now the person is an adult) these guys push irrational feelings onto the hosting part.
“My work productivity now is vastly different than it used to be. I was very productive at various times in my life but also had many moments when I would get completely overwhelmed. I left many jobs prior to the DID dx because I could no longer cope.”
I too have experienced this. I would be overwhelmed by immature feelings. These are feelings from the EP/parts that hold the trauma memories. They would be irrational and completely overwhelming. I could not think straight. I could not reason. I still struggle with this, but now I know why it happens and so can better cope with it.
” Immediately after the diagnosis, I had a difficult time and was only able to work part time. The more I became aware of my parts, before we had collaboration, the more there would be interruptions, sabotage, confusion as a way to get my attention. That made work and for that matter, having a social life difficult.”
My diagnosis was before age 5. That memory was never shared with all parts. Many ANP have not remembered the many years of therapy, and there was quite a bit of it during childhood and then from age 17 to 30. None of the is recalled by the ANP’s that are hosting most of the time right now. Once the ANP’s that are usually in the position of hosting today were aware of the DID then cooperation between the parts inside and the hosting parts finally could take place at this time in my life.
“YES, I seem to be at the cooperative stage, and for the moment it works well for me. But, I am not saying that I don’t want to integrate fully.”
We are both seem to be in the same place right now.
“My experience of trying to rush to integration with my first therapist ended up causing me a lot of grief when the resplit happened. I thought I had failed, I became angry at myself, angry at the DID. I had a hard time accepting that ‘they’ were back. I lot of work had to be done for me to surrender enough to engage in therapy in a new way with a new therapist and trust her. I worry about how I am doing today and take care of all aspects of me the best way I can. Some parts have blended and I can see that at some point, there will be an integration. But I don’t have a deadline for myself.”
I have never got to phase III to have experienced this. I like you are warning people and I will be aware as I approach that stage. What you have experienced does sound like what Dr. Richard Kluft is warning against in the 2011 ISSTD Document.
“Accordingly, a more realistic long-term outcome for some patients may be a cooperative arrangement sometimes called a “resolution”—that is, sufficiently integrated and coordinated functioning among alternate identities to promote optimal functioning. However, patients who achieve a cooperative arrangement rather than final fusion may be more vulnerable to later decompensation (into florid DID and/or PTSD) when sufficiently stressed.”
What I want to stress is that Final Fusion does not mean the Personality is fused. That’s not even possible. The normal mind is made up of the many parts of self that communicate well together. I would think that Final Fusion means this: ALL trauma memory has been processed and accepted and recognized by all parts of the self. There is normal communication now between all parts of the personality. The dissociative boundaries are gone. In addition feelings of abandonment, isolation and fear are reduced and work starts on this but it completed in Phase III. Phase III is crucial and I have read that many stop therapy before this phase begins.
Janet Simon says
Thanks, Quentin for the explanations and for sharing your experience.
Though your definitions describe generally how parts can be divided up, people with DID will structure and understand the inner workings of their system in a way that works for them.
For myself, I never use the terms ANP or EP though I understand what they describe. I have used the term ‘host’ in the past but no longer find it necessary.
I understand what each part does and don’t need to define it further. Some people find definitions helpful in making sense of their experience, and I am sure the definitions also help the professionals.
I lived almost 40 yrs without any language to define my DID experience so in that regard, my experience is very different from yours.
Thanks again for your input – we are a good example to show professionals that not all Peeps with DID express themselves in the same way.
Janet
Anonymous says
Thank you, Janet. As someone who is trying to find language for my DID experience (having just recently received the diagnosis) , I found your interview and the posts very informative. Also, Nancy Lee-Mauger’s paintings are beautiful.
Janet Simon says
Thanks Anonymous for your message.
I hope you find the language and support you need for your journey.
Betty Farnsworth says
Your story is similar to mine. I have had many diagnosis for many years. Once I got the DID diagnosis things got crazy for several years until I found someone with the skills to work with me. As I got better and began to understand my emotions. Integration was tried but I found as I learned about the parts I seem not to need them any more and some slowly disappeared. I graduated and started working at a mental health center. For some reason I felt I started disassociating more and decided to inform my boss in case she saw something irregular. Then she felt I should inform the other social workers so I did. Big mistake. I was constantly watched and asked if I was okay plus others asking information about my DID. It became more stressful. I eventually left that job. I also have gotten to know the remaining parts and have learned to set co-operation rules and have never gotten as bad as I once was. Whenever I see a new counselor or it comes up in discussion I’m always hearing its not real or its very rare and I don’t have it. Sometimes I was told I only had PTSD. I haven’t worked for a while but loved the job. Maybe eventually I’ll start back but I will never share my diagnosis.
Janet says
Dear Betty,
I hear you! Sad that we have to hide. It is acceptable for me to tell folks I have depression, anxiety and even PTSD (well at least there is less stigma for those conditions now), but DID is still the most misunderstood condition. I hope you find work again in the field. It is always better to not say anything at work and have strong support in your personal life. I wish you all the best.
Janet
Amanda says
Janet, thank you for telling us your story. I have recently been “diagnosed” with a personality disorder (Ive been told both DID and Borderline, so it needs to be fully diagnosed), but I have been just getting pushed around, my last psychiatrist literally made me feel like a pile of garbage. So I decided to take a step back, stop seeing them and look for better help.
Reading this definitely helped pick me up a bit, and I am going to save the link so if I ever need the inspiration your story is right there! Thank you
Janet says
Thanks, Amanda. Sorry you have had a bad experience with a psychiatrist. Unfortunately that is not uncommon.
I suggest (if I may) that you try to find a therapist who specializes in trauma. They are usually well versed in dissociative disorders and would be more willing to work with you on that. They will likely do some screening tests and do a more complete interview with you further to determine if this is the issue. Ask about their experience when you ‘interview’ them – which you have every right to do. Most psychiatrists prescribe medication and in most cases, you don’t treat DID with medication.
I wish you all the best.
Pramoda says
I find your journey very inspiring Janet. I now realize the struggle people with DID and other problems actually face, their strength and resilience. I think of you as a very brave person, because you not only fought against your internal struggle but are today in a position where you are helping so many people as a social worker.
Janet says
Thank you, Pramoda
I appreciate your comments. All the best to you,
Lucy says
Thank you so much, Janet, for your article, and Kallena for your comments. I appreciate your openness and the hope and sense of reduced isolation your writing offers. I’m one of what I’m sure is quite a number of counsellors/social workers in Australia living with a severe dissociative disorder.
I’m not currently working, and have just had to make quite the paradigm shift (and overcome a great deal of shame) to allow myself to receive a Disability Support Pension and remove the pressure from my shoulders of having to return to work before I’m ready.
We’ve stayed hidden for a very long time due to stigmatising misdiagnosis when we began interacting with people (outside of us and the abusers) in late adolescence/young adulthood, and only recently mustered the courage to see an excellent psychologist with a great deal of experience in treating disorders from the mild to severe ends of the dissociative spectrum. She’s unfortunately having to do a lot of work undoing the impacts of harmful and ignorant treatment we experienced over such a long period of time.
I felt a great deal of resonance with Kallena’s concerns about whether she’ll ever be able to return to employment in the social work/direct client work sphere. I think there are a number of issues at play for me, at least, not the least of which I’m wondering whether, once I’m further down the treatment track, I may change career direction entirely, by virtue of having a more integrated sense of identity.
I also am concerned about the potential problems in employers’ perceptions of me ‘returning to work after a long break on disability’, however I believe there are a number of ways of mitigating this, including providing an employer with a positive track record of volunteer work on which to build.
Your article certainly continues to be thought provoking, and I could probably go on sharing the many questions and potential solutions it has raised!
I too use a pen name, due to unfortunate necessity, so will sign off, with my warmest regards, as Lucy.
P.S. Please don’t hesitate to “visit” me at http://lucykearn.wixsite.com/lucyslandingplace
P.P.S. Dorlee posted my comment due to some glitch in the commenting section.
Janet says
Dear Lucy,
thank you for your comment. I am glad you were able to feel a bit hopeful. I look forward to looking at your website.
In the meantime, please send me your email at: JanetSimonSW@gmail.com I would like to share a recent experience with you.
Take care!